Jiddu Krishnamurti Insights:
- Questioner: Am I to understand we have to
meditate, but our minds are prevented from
meditating because they tick over automatically and
so we are unable to observe what happens around us?
Does this mean that we must therefore observe what
goes on inside our minds first?
- Jiddu Krishnamurti -
'To observe one needs to meditate' - I didn't
say so. Observing is meditation, it is
not that in order to observe you must meditate. To
observe is one of the most, difficult things. To
observe a tree, for example, is very difficult, and
that is because you have ideas, images, about that
tree, and these ideas - botanical knowledge -
prevent you from looking at that tree.
- To observe your wife or your husband is even more
difficult, again because you have an image about
your wife and she has an image about you, and the
relationship is between those two images. That is
what is generally called relationship, which is two
sets of memories, images, having a relationship.
Just think of the absurdity of it - all relationship
as we generally know it, is dead.
- To observe means actually to be aware of the
interference of thought; to see how the image you
have about the tree, about the person, about
whatever it is, interferes with looking - observe
that you forget what you are looking at, which is
the tree, or the person; and see why thought
interferes, why you have an image about that person.
- Why do you have an image about anybody? Here we
are, you are looking at me, and I am looking at you
- the speaker and you, the audience. You have an
image about the speaker - unfortunately - but
because I don't know you, I have no image and I can
therefore look at you. But I cannot look at you if I
say to myself, I'm going to use that audience to
achieve power, position, to exploit it, become a
famous man - you know all the rest of it - all that
rubbish which human beings cultivate.
- So, to observe means to observe without the
interference of one, background; but one is the
background - you follow?-one's whole being which
looks is one's background - as a Christian, as a
Frenchman, or as an intellectual. in observing one
discovers this background and observing it without
any choice, without any inclination, is tremendous
discipline, - not the absurd discipline of
conformity, imitation. Such observation makes the
mind extraordinarily active, extraordinarily
sensitive - and the whole of that is meditation.
Not, 'to observe you must meditate; but rather it is
in observing that all these things take place, and
all this is meditation - not just some kind of
control of thought, which we will discuss another
time.
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