- One observes throughout the world there are
two fundamental issues,
violence and sorrow. That
violence and
sorrow is not limited to the Orient nor the
Occident, to the West nor the East; it is part
of the human psychological structure.
Violence we have
accepted as a way of life - in wars, in our
business, in our outward social structure;
competition and all the things we know of - how
we dislike, hate, get angry, violent. We are
familiar with that and have accepted it as a way
of life.
- Either we accept the way of life as it is,
with violence
and all the rest of it; or we say there must be
a different way which human intelligence can
find, where violence
doesn't exist. That's all. And we say this
violence will
exist so long as comparison, suppression,
conformity, the disciplining of oneself
according to a pattern is the way of life. In
this there is conflict and therefore
violence.
- So can you see the fact of violence—the fact
not only outside of you but also inside you—and
not have any time interval between listening and
acting? This means by the very act of listening
you are free from violence. You are totally free
from violence because you have not admitted
time, an ideology through which you can get rid
of violence. This requires very deep meditation,
not just a verbal agreement or disagreement. We
never listen to anything; our minds, our brain
cells are so conditioned to an ideology about
violence that we never look at the fact of
violence. We look at the fact of violence
through an ideology, and the looking at violence
through an ideology creates a time interval. And
when you admit time, there is no end to
violence; you go on showing violence, preaching
non-violence.
- Do not think by merely wishing for peace,
you will have peace, when in your daily life of
relationship you are aggressive, acquisitive,
seeking psychological security here or in the
hereafter. You have to understand the central
cause of conflict and sorrow and then dissolve
it and not merely look to the outside for peace.
- With complete attention, what takes place?
When you give complete attention to
anything—your learning of history or
mathematics, looking at your wife or your
husband—what takes place? I do not know if you
have gone into it—probably most of us have never
given complete attention to anything—but when
you do, what takes place?
- Formally I have condemned violence, I have
escaped from it, I have justified it, I have
said it is natural. All these things are
inattention. But when I give attention to what I
have called violence—and in that attention there
is care, affection, love—where is there space
for violence?
- Violence is not merely killing another. It
is violence when we use a sharp word, when we
make a gesture to brush away a person, when we
obey because there is fear. So violence isn’t
merely organized butchery in the name of God, in
the name of society or country. Violence is much
more subtle, much deeper, and we are inquiring
into the very depths of violence. When you call
yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or
a European, or anything else, you are being
violent.
- There are so many different kinds of
violence. Shall we go into each kind of violence
or shall we take the whole structure of
violence? Can we look at the whole spectrum of
violence, not just at one part of it?…The source
of violence is the “me”, the ego, the self,
which expresses itself in so many ways—in
division, in trying to become or be
somebody—which divides itself as the “me” and
the “not me”, as the unconscious and the
conscious; the “me” that identifies with the
family or not with the family, with the
community or not with the community and so on.
It is like a stone dropped in a lake; the waves
spread and spread, at the centre is the “me”. As
long as the “me” survives in any form, very
subtly or grossly, there must be violence.
- Man is all the time trying to become
non-violent. So there is conflict between “what
is”, which is violence, and “what should be”,
which is non-violence. There is conflict between
the two. That is the very essence of wastage of
energy. As long there is duality between “what
is” and “what should be”—man trying to become
something else, making an effort to achieve
“what should be”—that conflict is waste of
energy. As long as there is conflict between the
opposite, man has not enough energy to change.
Why should I have the opposite at all, as
non-violence, as the ideal?
- If there was no ideal at all, you would be
left with “what is”. Would that make one
complacent? Or would you then have the energy,
the interest, the vitality to solve ‘what is’?
Is not the ideal of non-violence an escape from
the fact of violence? When the mind is not
escaping, but is confronted with the fact of
violence—that it is violent, not condemning it,
not judging it—then surely such a mind has an
entirely different quality and there is no
longer violence.
- Now, suppose I am violent. How do I observe
that violence,
because I want to understand the nature of that
violence. I want
to go, explore, discover the extraordinary
factors that contribute to
violence. So how
do I observe? First, is
violence - please listen to this - is
violence
different from me? Right? You understand my
question? I am asking, is that
violence which I
see when I say I am violent, is that
violence
different from me or I am that
violence? When
you are angry, you are angry. It is not you are
different from anger. You are different from
anger only when you want to control it, only
when you say I must suppress it, but are you
actually different, separate from
violence.
Please, we must go into this very carefully
because most people say I am different from that
object which I call
violence. Is that so? Is the word
'violence'
separated - you understand?
- When there are two dogmatic beliefs, and
each trying to convert the other, oppose each
other, it is a form of
violence. So are we aware of this factor
in our life? And when you become aware of it
what are you going to do? Do you say, 'Yes, I am
aware of it' but carry on with
violence?
Therefore it becomes a very serious matter. If
one is really to be free of
violence, to
look at it, to live with it, to understand it,
to go into it and see all the multiple forms of
violence,
totally be acquainted with it - and when you are
acquainted with something it flowers and then
withers away, you don't have to fight it.
- Sir, look: I am violent. I observe it. Because I don't run away from it, I don't suppress it, I don't transform it into something else as non -violence, which is absurd - the transformation of violence into non -violence is stupidity, it has no meaning. So as I am violent, I let it come out - not in action. Let it flower, let it grow, as you watch it, it grows and dies. Haven't you done all this? That is, sir, when you are angry, at that moment of anger you are not aware, you are full out. Then a second later you say, 'I have been angry'. Right? So you have divided yourself as not being angry and that you have been angry. So there is a division between the observer who says, 'I have been angry, and I must not be angry'. Right? So the division brings about conflict, saying, 'I mustn't be angry, how am I to get rid of my anger' - and so on and so on, so on. Whereas if you are aware of anger as it arises and let it come out non-verbally (laughs), non-actively, not say, 'I am going to hit you' - let it flower, let it come out, and you will see it disappears very quickly and withers away. And if you do it properly you are never angry again, finished..
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Sunday, February 12, 2012
Jiddu Krishnamurti Quotes on Violence
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